With a little help ...
Phil Lesh relying heavily on friends these days

By Mark Brown, News Popular Music Critic
Rocky Mountain News
April 5, 2002

When Grateful Dead bassist Phil Lesh decided to carry on with touring, he settled on the name "Phil Lesh and Friends" for a good reason. While he'd always had great input into the Dead's music, he's had to adjust to the role of bandleader. "It's more like being a politician," he says. "I just try to set the tone and the direction. The guys in the band -- their input is as important as mine on every level."

For years he used a revolving set of musicians that gravitated toward him in the San Francisco music scene. But with guitarists Warren Haynes and Jimmy Herring, along with keyboard player Rob Barraco and drummer John Molo, he's found a permanent lineup.

Indeed, fans will find this a rich time. Not only is he doing another series of Colorado shows (including Denver tonight and Vail over the weekend), but There and Back Again comes out May 21.

There and Back Again is Lesh's first solo studio album (his 1999 release was a live disc) and his first extended time in a recording studio since the Grateful Dead's aborted attempt at a new album in 1995, before guitarist Jerry Garcia died. In the past, Lesh has found inspiration and new directions from playing off of other musicians, but he'd pretty much stuck to bass and keyboards for performing and writing. He'd tried some rudimentary acoustic guitar, but he just didn't have an affinity for it.

"But then I got myself a good electric guitar for a birthday present" and everything changed, he says. On a whim he picked up the '63 Stratocaster and suddenly found himself enraptured with its sound.

"I'm just in love with it. It's such a great-sounding instrument and so easy to play," he says. "I just started writing music about a year ago, and it just started coming out. It just gave me ideas. It's the first time I've picked up an instrument and had the facility on it to be able to learn from it."

Suddenly he found himself with the structures for a half-dozen songs mapped out, "and one of them just kinda sat up and said to me 'I am a Robert Hunter song.' I just called Bob and said, 'I've got this song, and it's telling me that I want you to write lyrics for it.' "

Being a leader was a natural role onstage, but in the studio, Lesh knew that the free-form jams had to be made into more economical messages.

"We're trying to focus everything down to the arrangement -- to make a composition out of a song that has a beginning, middle and end and some kind of story structure," he says. "My goal is to tell a story in a single gesture, with no hiccups, no gaps."

And once in the studio, that began to take shape quickly. The song Celebration, for example, had stretched out to 11 minutes onstage. "Now we focused it down and it's 4 minutes, 40 seconds long," Lesh says. "It's a jewel. It tells the whole story in a single gesture, but with all this detail in it."

Interestingly, what made the process work for him was Pro Tools. The studio editing software is often the focus of derision in the music industry, as it's the core of the studio wizardry that can make "singers" out of the likes of Britney Spears and *NSYNC.

But in the hands of real musicians, it can be a strong tool for real music, Lesh says. He recalls Grateful Dead sessions where there would be endless, fruitless takes of music, laborious attempts to come up with the proper arrangements of songs. With Pro Tools, "we were able to go in there and do a song a day," he says.

They'd lay down the track live, the way they'd do it onstage, then sit down with producer Don Gehman and edit, rearrange and reshape it using Pro Tools.

"We were actually able to use it as a compositional tool by editing segments ... in a certain way and saying, 'OK, that'll work -- let's do it that way,' " Lesh says.

The band would then go and play the song in the new arrangement and nail it, he says. He emphasizes that Pro Tools wasn't used for pitch shifting, song editing or any other studio trickery -- just as a way to sketch and stretch their ideas.

"All the arrangements you hear on the record were performed that way," he says. Onstage, the setlists consist of everything from Grateful Dead chestnuts to Beatles covers to unreleased new songs, but one thing is constant: It's different every night.

"The general tenor and tone and story that's trying to be told pretty much has to do with the moment, the position of the stars or planets or my biorhythms at the time," he says. "I try to do every set and every show as if it tells a story at the time. The material is rich enough that it can be strung together in many different ways."

Lesh and other members of the Grateful Dead had a well-publicized split several years ago about the handling of the band's vast vault of recorded live music, but things have been patched up to a degree. Lesh has played regularly with Bob Weir's Ratdog, and all surviving members of the Dead played music together last New Year's Eve, he says.

"We're speaking to each other now," he says with a chuckle. "We're slowly regaining our unity. Everything is looking better in that world. I'm trying to communicate with those guys on an artistic level and not so much on the business."

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